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Old 2-9-2008, 23:10   #1 (permalink)
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Why is there only Deagle, AUG, M4A1, TMP and FAMAS on the hossie server?

Here are my thoughts on weapons, and some reasons why:

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  • Only CT's should have a buy zone in the map
  • CT's should only start with the USP
  • Terrorists start with a Glock
  • The maps would have to be remodelled by someone
^ should make it more realistic for a start
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  • Everyone should be allowed all CT bought pistols
Shotguns
  • Only the M3 should be allowed, if this is going to be realistic(ish), no cop would have an auto-shotgun!
Sub-Machineguns
  • All SMGs, maybe not P90, because that is a bit OTT (over the top)
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  • Not AWP, or auto-snipers, but all others (possibly including scout, you decide )
Machine Guns
  • No Machine Guns - that would be stupid
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  • Kevlar - Doesn't really affect the game, it's the CT's choice
  • FlashBang - Probably shouldn't be included, but'd be fun
  • HE Grenade - No, would be stupid
  • Smoke Grenade - No
  • NightVision - Yes, such fun when it's boring
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Hey Exodus!
Thanks for the input.

I'd just like to say, I agree with you in certain areas but would think contrary in others.

I think the weapons allowance list should be as follows:

Terrorist
- All T pistols
- Mac 10

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- All Pistols.
- M4a1
- Aug
- Scout ( To enable long distance watching on maps like aztec.)

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I don't think any other equipment is necessary. I disagree stronly against flashbangs. I think this would ruin the game. However, it would be interesting to see how nightvision and Kevlar + Helmet are implemented.

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Well the hosties server needs to have more admins on because most of the players don't even know the basic rules :| or it should have voteban implemented. I agree with hazz about the equipment and weapons. Anyway today it was impossible to play because whatever the terrorist did a noob CT would've killed him and not only him :|... there were some CT that threw weapons at the T to kill them afterwards. We need measurements.
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Is there one admin who is extremely experienced with this mod, who would be willing to organize a training session for other admins to go over the finer points of the rules?

I currently don't enjoy admining this mod, because I don't feel comfortable with dealing with many of the problems on it.

Maybe a training session would be useful for a few of us?

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I currently don't enjoy admining this mod, because I don't feel comfortable with dealing with many of the problems on it.

Maybe a training session would be useful for a few of us?

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I think cops should start with kevlar, m4 and a deagle. Terrors on the other hand should only start with a deagle. That'll force them to think before they rebel.
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Well the hosties server needs to have more admins on because most of the players don't even know the basic rules :| or it should have voteban implemented. I agree with hazz about the equipment and weapons. Anyway today it was impossible to play because whatever the terrorist did a noob CT would've killed him and not only him :|... there were some CT that threw weapons at the T to kill them afterwards. We need measurements.
Lmao, more admins needed?
If they dont know the rules they need to type !rules.
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Is there one admin who is extremely experienced with this mod, who would be willing to organize a training session for other admins to go over the finer points of the rules?

Maybe a training session would be useful for a few of us?
I know I am not an admin but I am experienced in the mod and have an indepth knowledge of it.
I would be happy to advise admins on how to manage this mod and server.
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there are some rules that I would like to know...
1.if CT jumps on Ts head can T kill CT? and then CTs cant kill that T.
2. some players think that if T is in some "wrong" place(pipes or so...) that means Rebel... they shoot without warning...(like in hosties_in_space. Cruth said its not allowed to shoot Ts from "escape pipe" without reason... and I think Cruth is right about this!
3. if CT kills T without reason and doesnt even say hes sorry why admins doesnt always slay this player? I think Slay isnt that bad for rulebreakers...same thing with LR most players doesnt know what that is(!!!)when T wons LR and kills CT other CTs aoutomaticly shoot the T!!! and put back that flash thing to LR when T challenges CT to LR CTs doesnt read the chat often enough and they dont see their been challenged! it maybe look annoying but it was GOOOOOOOOD idea!!!! then CTs know it is LR.
this happened yesterday to me...
-Laspa choose GunToss with ******
-Laspa: Hey ****** come to GT I challenged you
-******: Wat?!!??!??
-someCT: LASPA drop your gun or I shoot you!!!!
-Laspa: no... it is my LR with ******
-someCT: DROP YOUR GUN LASPA!
-Laspa:my LR!!!!!!!!
someCT killed Laspa with m4.
Woooooohoooooo

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Lmao, more admins needed?
If they dont know the rules they need to type !rules.
Trust me, more admins are needed. I told them over 10 times to read the rules both in chat and with the mic ... noone listened. There needs to be an authority that is above them because they are sheep and don't (want to) understand :|
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Sorry for the double post but the edit time has expired :| (you should make it longer)

For Laspa:

1. If CT gets on T's head T should be allowed to kill the CT instantly, the CT can't strike back and no CT should kill the T
2. You are not allowed to kill that person only if you say at the beginning of the round "Vent/pipes/whatever = death" or "Don't get on alternate route or we kill you"
If you warn him of something and he doesn't obey you can kill him (just like drop your weapon). Also if you tell them "No weapons in your cell, drop them in ..." and you find a gun in their cell you should be allowed to kill him.
3. The CT should be slayed even if he says sorry, killing without reason = slay, even if its by accident. If it is on purpose (e.g. you throw a weapon at him and then kill him or kill him directly) he should be warned then, if he does it again after the kick he should be banned.

Now I propose that it should seriously be implemented voteban. If it isn't an admin on, or the admin doesn't know what he is doing the players should take action. The ban from players should be for a few hours or a day.
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Sorry for the double post but the edit time has expired :| (you should make it longer)

For Laspa:

1. If CT gets on T's head T should be allowed to kill the CT instantly, the CT can't strike back and no CT should kill the T
2. You are not allowed to kill that person only if you say at the beginning of the round "Vent/pipes/whatever = death" or "Don't get on alternate route or we kill you"
If you warn him of something and he doesn't obey you can kill him (just like drop your weapon). Also if you tell them "No weapons in your cell, drop them in ..." and you find a gun in their cell you should be allowed to kill him.
3. The CT should be slayed even if he says sorry, killing without reason = slay, even if its by accident. If it is on purpose (e.g. you throw a weapon at him and then kill him or kill him directly) he should be warned then, if he does it again after the kick he should be banned.


Now I propose that it should seriously be implemented voteban. If it isn't an admin on, or the admin doesn't know what he is doing the players should take action. The ban from players should be for a few hours or a day.
1.I would like to hear these things from Admins! (they make rules)
2.and I dont think its not allowed to kill player from tunnel in hosties_in_space even if CT says: dont g otunnel or I kill! they should take the T to Cell!!!
3. If they say they are sorry I think it would be accident and if they fell sorry about that it would be ok to me!!! but the thing that they come to you shoot you in head and continue playing like nothing ever happened.. it PISSES me OFF..

but thx anyway..
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The flashbang isn't a bad idea !!
but only for T's if its possible.
and only one
the reason why it would be cool cuz T's could make a diversion with the flash, flashing the ct's and make a run 4 it ! XD
That would be cool.
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I think a nice idea if your a T would be a menu that pops up if you get shot/killed and you were not rebelling..

If you haven't attacked anyone, and you get shot... you should be allowed to punish the person who shot / killed you. Like a little menu appears, with options on it, slap x health (would be nice to deal the same damage they deal you) / slay (if they kill you) / etc etc

Dunno if that would be possible to add.. but would be nice.

edit: on second thought, a major flaw to that would be that a T could just refuse to do anything, and punish the CT if they shot him to try and get him to co-operate... bah. *sigh*
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Well, I've got another idea

Flashbangs should be a !lr choice. You choose the CT, and then both down to 1hp. Then, throw the flashes and kill kill kill!

Voteban would also be really usefull on the hossie server, because it would deter the griefers who ruin the game for people who play properly (like me ^^)

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Hey Exodus!
Thanks for the input.

I'd just like to say, I agree with you in certain areas but would think contrary in others.

I think the weapons allowance list should be as follows:

Terrorist
- All T pistols
- Mac 10

Counter Terrorist
- All Pistols.
- M4a1
- Aug
- Scout ( To enable long distance watching on maps like aztec.)

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I don't think any other equipment is necessary. I disagree stronly against flashbangs. I think this would ruin the game. However, it would be interesting to see how nightvision and Kevlar + Helmet are implemented.

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I just think that it's the CT's choice what weapon they use, and if it gives them less of a killing ability, so be it. Starting without a weapon would stop the terrorists stealing the M4s, if they buy a FAMAS, say. I personally think that shotguns (only the M3) should be allowed, because it's got disadvantages and advantages. I agree about scout, because instant kill with body shots really suck
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Flashbangs should be a !lr choice. You choose the CT, and then both down to 1hp. Then, throw the flashes and kill kill kill!
...and then all other CTs go crazy and starts shooting and T dies.. this happens even when there isnt flashbangs why wouldnt it happen with them....
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NO TO FLASHBANG, drop this idea this will just ruin the game.
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Exactly Mr.Oizo.
The only one thing i would change is to introduce a votekick/voteban system.

Needing 40% of votes for a kick and 60-70% for ban.

This will solve the problem when admin isnt on.

Apart from that, dont touch it.
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